Counting In 1/4 Notes And 1/8th Notes

As I've mentioned in the past, the stumbling block to playing fast really has nothing to do with your fingers and their ability to move.

In fact, in my experience it has much more to do with your ear's ability to subdivide the beat and instruct the brain on when to tell the fingers to move... nothing to do with the actual moving.

The first step in correcting that is to learn how to subdivide beats better so your ear can become a stronger player in this game. Watch this video and try to do it too.

I know… it’s not always “cool” to work on counting. But it’s IMPORTANT! It will literally transform your playing in a matter of weeks.. days even possibly.

And not just your rhythm playing… your leads too.

So watch… and make sure you practice along with me. In Example 18 I stopped counting out loud. This is fine if you are able to play along with the metronome without making mistakes. If you find you’re making mistakes, start counting out loud again.

In the next video, we’ll get a little fancier and talk about triplets and sixteenth notes…

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40 Comments

  • Jim

    Reply Reply January 6, 2015

    I just realized why you are such an effective teacher – your’re incredibly articulate, but break it down to its simplest terms, and present it in a friendly, very likeable tone. And this has NOTHING to do with music or guitar! Were you an english major in a previous life?

    • LouisVA

      Reply Reply January 6, 2015

      Jim, I am in agreement. Many other teachers seem like they jump from topic to topic making the lessons hard to follow. Griff, on the other hand, is logical and the lessons are well-crafted and in order. Thanks, Griff!

      • legoge47

        Reply Reply March 2, 2016

        That goes for other subjects as well as guitar. I had a teacher once who was trying to teach the people where I worked how to use the new computer system. Whenever someone would ask him a question, the only answer he gave was “Next page please!” 🙁

    • PAUL Dragotto

      Reply Reply January 6, 2015

      GREAT TIP. NOW THE WAY I HEARED YOU PLAY 8TH NOTES, SOUNDED LIKE YOU WHERE PLAYING ON THE NOT AND BETWEEN THE NEXT BEAT. DID I GET THAT RIGHT?
      BETWEEN 1 AN AND!. LORD GRIFF I HAVE BEEN PLAYING SO LONG WITH BAD HABITS , BUT FOE SOME REASON I NEVER LOST THE BEAT , UNLESS THE BASS PLAYER MESSED UP. I HAVE ALL 5 BOX’S ON A COPY SHEET. BOX’S 3-5 I HAVE DIFFICULTY WITH DUE TO THE ARTRITIST. BOX ONE AND TWO EVEN WITH THE BLUE NOTES , I CAN MIX THEM AROUND. BUT THANKS FOR THE TIP. I REALLY NEED TO PICKUP MY AXE AND START PRACTICING MORE. SO LONG ,TK!

      • Chief Rick

        Reply Reply January 7, 2015

        Paul,
        He was not playing between the number and the AND, he was plucking each note exactly ON the number and ON the AND. But if you never lost the beat, I guess you must have been doing it right.

    • Jack

      Reply Reply January 7, 2015

      I completely concur with Jim’s comments and the comments of others. Somehow Griff always hits the nail right on the head. This video is very basic but is really needed as a reminder to do what we should know to do. But it’s really Griff approach to teaching that is so appreciated. He always explains things in a way that is so easy to follow and to understand. Far too many guitar instructors assume students either know more than they actually do or they simply fail to explain in a way that’s easy to understand and to follow.

  • cowboy

    Reply Reply January 6, 2015

    really like the Pentatonic Mastery course…great info and this is just a small part…just need to finish it…later.

    cowboy

  • Jess

    Reply Reply January 6, 2015

    Thanks for all the info…I just starter with Beginning Blues Guitar

  • Paul Warner

    Reply Reply January 6, 2015

    As I have said previously learning to count, understand time, and all the note values, along with rest values, dotted notes and a slew of other things you have to know the value of, leads the way toward being accomplished musically. Not only do I work on guitar but keyboards too, which means you are intentionally playing bass along with chordal or voice notes too, so now you have to learn not only two sets of notes, bass and treble, but the counting is usually different for both, even though in 4/4 time. Lessons on time, note value, counting are worth their weight in gold if you truly want to learn to play so this is very appreciative on my part. Paul

  • Bill45

    Reply Reply January 6, 2015

    If you don’t have a metronome, there are some free apps that you can download to your smart phone. Just Google Free Metronome Apps and you will find a bunch of them.

  • Raymee

    Reply Reply January 6, 2015

    Working on BGU but I am going to follow along with you with this lesson and the rest. Very convient on my IPhone. Thanks Griff

  • Gregory L

    Reply Reply January 6, 2015

    I’m not new to playing but I am certainly new to timing and when I first heard you speak of counting, it annoyed me, but being me, I gave it shot and it was not unlike patting your head and rubbing your belly at the same time. The rhythm in my playing (with chords and strumming, not notes) was not syncopated with the counting rhythm and it was almost not doable. Something magical happened when it finally became clear how to separate those sounds; my playing made sense. I have a Looper that has my rhythm tracks recorded and I noticed none of them followed the timing of a metronome–which I’ve recently started using–until I laid down the tracks with my counting and metronome. What a stunning awareness–and obviously one everyone should get from the start, which is why I applaud this and all lessons that you do that stress that. You Rock Groovy One!

  • Bob Glass

    Reply Reply January 6, 2015

    Along time ago I was taught how to count in eight and quarter notes. But somewhere in my stubbornness, I refused to adequate learn them. I really appreciate this lesson. Thanks for the reminder 🙂

  • Dean

    Reply Reply January 6, 2015

    In 1/8 after doing it multiple times, I noticed that on ascending the ‘beat’ is on your pointer finger. On the descending ‘and’ is, this really helped me when I lose it to get back in time quickly. Thanks, G-riff

  • Nev in Spain

    Reply Reply January 6, 2015

    Cant wait for more of this to help my phrasing

  • Bob D

    Reply Reply January 6, 2015

    Hi Griff,
    I just wanted to say how much I enjoy your daily e-mails. I am a 73 y/o lead guitar player who started out on drums but switched to guitar about 50 years ago. My venue is basically country and swing sprinkled w/ light jazz licks. I have subscribed to your mailing list for over a year now and the first thing I do in the morning is turn on the computer to see what daily tidbit you have for the day. I had never heard of the pentatonic blues scale although I had learned it years ago as another arpeggio lick. I had sort of figured out the ‘boxes’ as I went along and have learned to vary my leads by playing in the different inversions up the neck. The way you approach learning the guitar is excellent and makes a lot of sense to this self taught ‘ear’ musician. It has helped me to organize my playing and I have found novel ways to ‘connect’ the boxes from watching your videos. As an old drummer I luckily have a built in metronome but your review of the note values and timing are a ‘must learn’ for any aspiring musician no matter what his playing style. I take my hat off to you as a super picker, music theorist and teacher. Thanks for all you do for the music field and aspiring musicians and thanks for helping me to become an even better musician.

  • Randy j

    Reply Reply January 6, 2015

    Thanks for giving the time and energy much appreciated .

  • Jean Dominique

    Reply Reply January 6, 2015

    So important to master the basics…thank you

  • Toni G

    Reply Reply January 7, 2015

    Thanks Griff,
    Like always you make perfect sense. Its easy learning from someone who I feel, definitely knows what he’s talking about.

  • dale

    Reply Reply January 7, 2015

    Hey Griff,,,, this is great..something I personally need to work on..Every thing you said is right on.. looking for more on this….

    Thanks.

  • michael

    Reply Reply January 7, 2015

    Thanks Teach, counting is harder than it sounds, but after doing it out loud its getting easier. (slowly buy surely)

  • John

    Reply Reply January 7, 2015

    I agree 100% with Jim, best teacher, for me at least, ever.

  • ellis temple

    Reply Reply January 7, 2015

    I enjoy your teaching so much u makes things real plain, never had anyone to explain it the way u do most other teachers makes things complicated I get frustrated ,you takes time to explain Ellis Temple

  • Annette

    Reply Reply January 7, 2015

    Griff, I agree with others’ comments that you are very articulate and make things easy to understand. I take guitar lessons at a local music store. My teacher is very nice and very encouraging, but so many times I leave my lesson scratching my head. Let’s just say some teachers assume you know things, or forget to mention certain parts that may be critical to understanding, or just don’t explain it properly. Sometimes I watch one of your videos and a light bulb goes on and I think “Aha, that’s what my teacher meant!”, and suddenly understanding is clear. I wish I could take lessons from you in person … unfortunately, I’m one of those who needs to do this face to face. I could (and do) learn from videos, but I need the pressure of knowing I have a set lesson at a set time every week to give me that extra kick in the ass to get going and make sure I learn it. If I could do video lessons at my own pace, I don’t think I’d ever get there. But sure wish my teacher explained things like you do, I think I’d be much farther ahead.

  • nancy

    Reply Reply January 7, 2015

    All I can say is that Griffin Hamlin, you are the bomb of music teachers!
    Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

  • Stevie D

    Reply Reply January 9, 2015

    Griff,
    I really enjoyed this lesson (didn’t think I would) but it’s made me really want to take it further. When are the next videos coming?
    Thanks
    Stevie

  • Helmuth Felber

    Reply Reply January 10, 2015

    you are the greatest you have given me so much to discover and you keep on giving
    THANKS SO MUCH

    hELM

  • Luther Redd

    Reply Reply January 11, 2015

    Thank you Griff, I need to no that, thanks so much. this give me a changes to play along with the videos.
    Thanks you much.
    Luther

  • Arthur

    Reply Reply January 15, 2015

    Griff , I have the counting but my fingers just won’t follow, I need to practice this one. Tks.. you make it interesting and I love the challenge.
    Great teacher

  • Kim

    Reply Reply January 28, 2015

    Hi Griff
    I sort of get this and will try the technique, but… is it not the same result if you set the metronome to 120 beats /m and play 14 notes? why do 1/8ths?

    Kim

  • Kim

    Reply Reply January 28, 2015

    Hi
    In above comment i meant play 1/4 notes not 14!!

    Kim

  • Gundula

    Reply Reply February 3, 2015

    Griff, I like this series very much. It is clearly explained, not too fast and easy to set it into practice. Please keep the video’s coming. Many thanks again.

  • mick

    Reply Reply March 17, 2015

    Hi Griff im 72 been playing the guitar since I was 14 im a fair player I have my own style.i always wanted to read music i just don’t understand it, I find its like ink blots on a piece of paper and the pentatonic scale has me totally losr for i thought all music scales had 8 notes not 5. I listen to you playing its sounds great and it looks so easy smooth and fast and not a problem.Maybe ive left it a bit late and ive got used to my own way of playing and the fingers are getting a bit stiff and i find i cant hold a finger pick any more. I will still watch your videos and maybe i might pick up a tip or two.P S i had the great pleasure of meeting and chatting to the great Jimi Hendrix when he came to Scotland in 1967 my claim to fame.

  • Dan

    Reply Reply March 20, 2015

    Your technique works fantastic for me with rhythm as well as lead. I’m learning to count and play consistently in 1/16th’s. Thank you.

  • Willie Brigance

    Reply Reply May 11, 2015

    Hey Griff…just wanted to thank you for all the great lessons you send us…you are a very awesome teacher and you really know how to explain things so us that are new to guitar can understand what you are talking about…I just have a quick question about scales…i heard someone talking about the dominant pentatonic scale…i have never heard of this scale and i was wondering if you could make a video explaining what it is and how to use it.

  • Alex Mowatt

    Reply Reply January 11, 2016

    I haven’t read my way through all the above comments Griff. Kind of tired this evening, I was awake and up at 6.00a.m. , foolishly as it is now. What I would like to say / concur with others above is your methodology and, obvious patience, in your presentations is testament to your justifiable place up there with the great teachers. I originally purchases my first course from you on the basis of the deliver of the online descriptions of some of the processes within the course. I have said it before I am grateful to have found you and your course material. Keep up the great work.

  • Rick Riner

    Reply Reply January 11, 2016

    I have to agree with Griff, counting is so important! It seems silly at first but when you see the results it make perfect sense. Rhythm is upmost important, keep a good rhythm and everything will sound much better!!

  • Bill E

    Reply Reply March 2, 2016

    Thanks ,
    I really need to learn how to count.!!!!

    Thanks again

    Be

  • Perry Keeley (Seattle)

    Reply Reply March 2, 2016

    I love the way you just lay it on out there. .. so easy to understand. You tell me what I need to hear to get it. Thank you very much for the work that you do. I’m in the greater puget sound area . Work the ports in Seattle &Tacoma. I just need to set aside practice time every week. Doesn’t really matter what I practice but I need to practice. Thank you, Perry Keeley

  • Bill E

    Reply Reply March 12, 2016

    Grif,

    Struglgling, but still trying.

    Thanks,
    Bill e.

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